Moscow Water Dog vs Francais Blanc et Noir - Breed Comparison

Moscow Water Dog is originated from Russia but Francais Blanc et Noir is originated from France. Both Moscow Water Dog and Francais Blanc et Noir are having almost same height. Moscow Water Dog may weigh 23 kg / 51 pounds more than Francais Blanc et Noir. Moscow Water Dog may live 3 years less than Francais Blanc et Noir. Moscow Water Dog may have more litter size than Francais Blanc et Noir. Both Moscow Water Dog and Francais Blanc et Noir requires Moderate maintenance.

History

The Moscow Water Dog was developed in the Soviet Union around the same time as other classic Soviet dogs. The Moscow Watchdog and the Black Russian Terrier are a couple of these other dogs. The Water Dog came from crossing the Caucasian Oytcharka with the Newfoundland. The breed is known by many names including the Vodolaz which means “diver of deep Water”. The Moscow Water Dog was only bred in the Russian state’s Red Star Kennels as working dogs for the military.

Following the second World War, most of the working dogs had been destroyed during the war. Not enough dogs could be imported to begin a breeding program for any working breed. So, the Soviet Red Star Kennels began to create several working breeds. Included in this group with the Moscow Water Dog, were the Moscow Newfoundland, the Moscow Great Dane, the Black Russian Terrier, and the Brudasty Hound.

The only really successful breed coming from this program is the Russian Black Terrier. All the rest are either extinct or found only in Russia today. The Moscow Water Dog was supposed to be a life saver/water rescue dog, but the dogs they developed were too aggressive, and the program was scrapped. It seemed that the cross had bred a dog that had too much of the working water dog traits and not enough of the rescue dog traits. The military breeders tried to pass the dogs off as a Russian Newfoundland and sell it to the non-military.

These non-military owners of the few “Russian Newfoundland”, did not try to change the dogs through breeding. Instead over time they bred the Russian Newfoundland with pure bred Newfoundlands almost eliminating the “Russian” portion of the breed. By the early 1980’s the stock had been so diluted with the pure Newfoundland that the Russian Newfoundland was basically extinct.

The Red Army kennel had other breeds with some of the genes of this breed in their lines. This included the Brudasty Hound, the Moscow Great Dane, the Caucasian Oycharka, the Moscow Watchdog and the Russian Black Terrier. The Russian Navy was unhappy with the situation and never again let the army developed the Navy’s waterdog.

francais blanc et noir - historyTranslated from the French Chien Francais Blanc et Noir, is the French White and Black Hound. His ancestry goes back before the French Revolution to the old Hound of Saintonge and the Gascon Saintongeois. The Francais Blanc et Noir was bred to be a hunting dog and he is a scent hound. They were dogs that went hunting in packs, mostly for Roe and Red deer. In the late 19th Century, the Gascon Saintongeois was crossed with the Poitevin and the result was the Francais Blanc et Noir.

The breed was recognized in 1957 and by 2009 there were about 2000 dogs registered with the Federation Cynoloqique Interenationale. There are three types of the Francais line. They are the Chien Francais Tricolor and Chien Francais Blanc et Orange. The Blanc et Noir was bred as a hunting dog and they remain that especially in France. However, they are also very popular in dog shows. Because so many dogs belonged to hunters who felt no compulsion to register them, they were not recognized internationally for many decades later than they should have been.

Following the Second World War, breeding programs were in chaos and hunters were abandoning dogs that they could not feed. The military killed many dogs also. The Chien Francais Blanc et Noir saw its ranks greatly depleted but the breed survived. After being recognized in 1957 by the CKC and FCI, they gained international attention for the first time. Even though the breed is rare its numbers are greater than either of the other Chien Francais types. The breed registers 200 to 400 new dogs every year.

They are still endangered though because there are very few dogs left outside of France.

The UKC has recognized the breed but the AKC doesn’t.

Description

The Moscow Water Dog was intelligent, vigilant, an excellent swimmer, and great in artic waters. However, he was too aggressive and instead of saving the swimmer, they would attack them. The Moscow Water Dog is a tall, balanced and powerful dog. They have a wide muzzle and a square head like the Newfoundland. Their eyes are dark and small while the ears are triangular. The nose and lips are black. He has webbed feet of course and a hanging tail.

The coat on the Moscow Water Dog was of course waterproof and double. The top coat is very dense, straight and soft. It is usually a dark brown with some black and white.

francais blanc et noir puppy - descriptionBeing a pack hunting dog, the Francais Blanc et Noir is muscular and lean. A long legged athletic breed with long drop ears, a domed head, and flews overhanging the lower lip. The coat is black and white, with black and blue ticking. There are tan dot on the cheeks and above the eyes and also below the tail. These spots of pale tan color can also appear on the dog’s legs. The Francais Blanc et Noir is known for its scenting ability and for its great voice. With its athletic build it is also known for its ability to persevere

Characteristics

Children friendliness

yes

Special talents

Swimming and stamina

Adaptability

Yes but needed some land. Better in countryside.

Learning ability

This is an intelligent dog, but he could not be trained out of his aggressiveness.

Children friendliness

francais blanc et noir dog - characteristicsThey are good with children as long as the children are not overly rambunctious.

Special talents

Include scenting activities, rescue, tracking and hunting.

Adaptability

He is a large active dog that would not be adaptable to apartment or city life.

Learning ability

The breed is very smart and easily trainable.

Health Problems

Because the breed was around for such a short period there is not a lot of documentation or information regarding genetic or propensity health issues. There are however a few issues that just his heritage and Newfoundland blood would lend itself to.

  • Tendency toward obesity. Do not free feed.
  • Hip and elbow dysplasia – could lead to arthritis.
  • Bloat or gastric torsion – could be fatal.
  • Cardiovascular issues.
  • Addison’s Disease
  • Hypothyroidism

francais blanc et noir puppies - health problemsThe Francais Blanc et Noir has the propensity for several minor and a few major health problems. These include:

Bloat

Can lead to death if not treated immediately. Stomach twists and distends.

Joint Dysplasia

Can lead to arthritis and lameness if not treated.

Ear Infections

These can be avoided if ears are checked and cleaned after each hunt and after exercise.

Mange

The breed is susceptible to the non-fatal type. Check for mites regularly.

Allergies

Both seasonal and food potentially.

Caring The Pet

Feeding the puppy

Required high quality food made specifically for large or giant puppies. Feed 3-4 times a day a total of 21/2 -3 cups.

Feeding the adult

Required high quality food made for large or giant dog breeds. Feed twice a day a total of 2 cups.

Games and Exercises

The Moscow Water Dog did not need a high level of exercise, but they did have a lot of stamina. They loved to swim. Not overly active – more of a couch potato.

Feeding the puppy

francais blanc et noir dogs - caringUntil a year to 18 months feed two to three times per day two to two and one half cups of high quality dry dog food.

Feeding the adult

After 18 months of age feed the adult at least twice a day about three to four and one half cups of high quality dry dog food.

Points for Good Health

The breed is very active with good vision and strong scenting ability

Games and Exercise

The Francais Blanc et Noir is a dog with a lot of energy and bred to be very active. He needs plenty of exercise and both mental and physical stimulation. If you jog take him with you or take him on long walks every day. He will need a large yard and he needs a job if he is not used for hunting. He is good at field trials, tracking exercises, a search and rescue dog and barn hunts.

Basic Information

Group:
Working dog
Hound dog
Origin:
Russia
France
Height Male:
66 - 76 cm
25 - 30 inches
65 - 72 cm
25 - 29 inches
Height Female:
64 - 74 cm
25 - 30 inches
62 - 68 cm
24 - 27 inches
Weight Male:
45 - 55 kg
99 - 122 pounds
27 - 32 kg
59 - 71 pounds
Weight Female:
40 - 50 kg
88 - 111 pounds
25 - 30 kg
55 - 67 pounds
Life Span:
8 - 12 Years
10 - 15 Years
Litter Size:
5 - 12
4 - 6
Size:
Giant dog
Large dog
Other Names:
Moscow River Dog, Московский Водолаз, Moscow Vodolaz, Moskovsky Vodolaz, • Russian Newfoundland,Moscow Diver, Vodolaz, Moscow Retriever,
Black and White Hound, Chien Francais Blanc Et Noir
Colors Available:
dark brown to black, black
Black and White ,
Coat:
double coat
Short, dense, weather resistant
Shedding:
Moderate
Constant
Temperament:
Aggressive, Alert, Courageous, Intelligent
Affectionate, Cheerful, Docile, Energetic, Gentle, Intelligent, Loving, Loyal, Playful
Grooming:
Moderate maintenance
Moderate maintenance
Trainability:
Moderate
Moderate
Hypoallergenic:
No
No
Kids Friendly:
Yes
Yes
New Owners Friendly:
No
Yes

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